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@leighalexander i was vaguely in favour of hopepunk, because it seemed like a backlash against people indulging in grimdark fantasies of dystopia and acting like that was natural and inevitable and pointless fighting against - surprised it's lost its teeth quite so quickly.
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@leighalexander but then i have only heard people talking about it in an abstract sense, never actually hearing a particular work described that way, let alone actually reading said work.