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@obandsoller The boundaries are knotty and complicated and diffuse. But also, yes, I would say that those examples feel more like labour than "play". If you're on a set schedule and worrying about your numbers and depending on this to pay the rent, it feels like a different thing.Look on archive.org
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@obandsoller But also all games have an impact on life outside of them, because they exist within life.Permalink Look on archive.org