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it just occurred to me that the Haruhi Problem is also a change ringing problem
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this is the after effect of seeing @yaxu's talk earlier (slides here docs.google.com/presentation/d/1LSyNTRzxXtsv-lhkXWAR2L9CuRf1RpWgdXxrRzAq2xA/edit?usp=sharing - on the craft basis of algorithmic thinking)
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and how I'm in a demoscene talk and thinking about how relentless the human urge to make an interesting thing, and make culture around the thing you're making, and make new technology within that culture...