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@visakanv but I would say... what can look like poor outcomes can also be that someone is optimising for a different set of outcomes.Permalink Look on archive.org
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@visakanv in this Crossfit example... what is "being in shape"? for this guy, it's little fat/more muscles. but cardio fitness is a different thing. and so is "I enjoy the community" and "exercise helps my mental health".Look on archive.org