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@alicemazzy my reading is a bit different: bad actors drive out good, people with other communities are the first to leave
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@alicemazzy and those are the least likely to be abused or abusive (which are obviously correlated)
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@alicemazzy this kind of "community" is esp vulnerable as there's v weak social barriers to joining, and weak social signalling of norms
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@alicemazzy upholding personal autonomy is great and all, but I'd prefer to live and work with people I don't think are knobheads.
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@alicemazzy normally I do this by stopping being around groups with knobheads in, but I'm trying to get better at ostracizing them instead.
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@alicemazzy (where appropriate, obviously) (appropriateness is related to my power within the group and the group's professional importance)
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@alicemazzy guess this is a typical political thing of agreeing on a problem but the solutions being either more or less of the same thing